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  1. #26

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    Hier is de foto in HQ: http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/...7/index_hi.php

    De vrouw op de stoel is dus waarschijnlijk ook de blonde vrouw in de foto's. Zie de laarzen.

    En links zie je een hand met een geweer op haar gericht.

  2. #27

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door Tim Wiselaar Bekijk bericht
    er zit een dame in de stoel
    Volgens mij is dat Miss Piggy
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  3. #28

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    Ff hele lap tekst,
    Het dikgedukte is wel boeiend:


    Saw IV is next for the series, scheduled for a Halloween 2007 release, with Bousman back as director. IGN recently caught up with the helmer, producer Oren Koules, and the series' star killer, Jigsaw himself, Tobin Bell, to discuss the new film.

    The first topic that came up during our chat was the notion that four movies in four years seems like a real grind, but as Bousman sees it, the filmmakers are only serving a larger game plan.

    "One of the great things is we are not churning them out, we just never stop production. Unlike X-Files, which I used to work on," says the director (whose IMDb credits list him as having served as "honey wagon attendant" on that show). "I'd always ask, 'Do you guys know where this is going to? Do you have an answer?' And they were like, 'No, we don't.' We know where [Saw] is going and there is a definite conclusion … and we figured it out. When we were writing part two, Leigh and I sat down and asked, 'Where do we want this thing to go to, where does this end?' And did I think that I was coming back on III? No. Or IV? No, I don't think so. I thought III would have been the end for me. Definitely III was the end of that story. But it was always envisioned for there to be separate stories to be going on in Saw and I just happen to take part in the beginning of the next story."

    Koules, who's been with the series since its first installment, disagrees with the idea that one picture a year is a fast turnaround -- in this day and age, anyway, where feature-quality television shows churn out 20 or more episodes a year.
    "It's really not [that fast]," he says. "Look at Law & Order. They do 24 episodes a year, 24 one-hour episodes with great writing, great production value. We're only doing one hour-and-40-minute, hour-and-50-minute movie a year. So we've already written… V's being written; VI is being written."
    So mark it on your calendars now, folks -- your plans for Halloween 2008 and 2009 have been made for you. And without giving anything away (regarding the events of the third film or the upcoming fourth), Koules does admit that Saw III was a pretty definitive chapter in the series.

    How does the new film tie into what has come before, then?
    "It's not a prequel. It's not a sequel," says the producer cryptically. "It works. I can tell you that it's an idea that we worked on a year and a half ago with Leigh. We sat and worked on it, and then last May when we were shooting we had an idea of a structure to do, even before we were 100-percent positive about what we were doing with Tobin. And it works. It really works, and this isn't about whoring ourselves out, making as much money as we can. In some ways, it's the best story. James and Leigh approved the story and loved it.

    We flew up to Sundance with James and Leigh, [executive producers] Pete Block and Jason Constantine, [producer] Mark [Burg] and myself, and Darren, and spent two days making sure it worked, and it's perfect. In some ways, it's the most exciting story. And it's really not hype."
    The return of the character of Jigsaw for the fourth film might raise some eyebrows for those who saw part three, but the man who plays Jiggy, Tobin Bell, assures us that it won't be a Dallas kind of gimmick that brings his character back into the fold. No, Saw III wasn't a dream. No, Jigsaw's twin cousin from Texas is not taking over his duties in the new film. Bell says audiences can expect a more interesting explanation for the character's return than those weak stand-bys. One thing is certain, however: This will be the same Jigsaw we've always known.
    "From my perspective, that guy was a guy in a bed in Saw III, who was dealing with Amanda in front of him the same way as a guy in a bed in my house or your house would be dealing with a girl," says Bell. "I don't view him... I don't approach him as some kind of strange, diabolical insane person. That's not his view of himself, so why should I approach him that way?"

    Bousman readily acknowledges that he was adamantly against coming back for the fourth film -- he was all sawed out, one might say. But he found the script by newcomers to the franchise Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton (Feast) too good to pass up.
    "The first card to get me to come back was to just look at the script," he recalls. "And I was on page 85 and I didn't feel any way about it. I wasn't pissed or excited about it, but then I got to page 87 where I was like, 'Goddamn it, they got me.' And I had been doing this for the last three years and they got me. That is when I knew I had to come back, and they end it this time around -- I am not going to say there is a twist, but to me Saw films are like magic tricks in that you go in there and you are looking for the way they are going to do it, and then they do the trick and you are like, 'S--t, we missed it.' And then you go back again to watch it again to see if you can see it."

    An aspect of the series that has intrigued fans is its unwillingness to adhere to an obvious chronological timeline. It's difficult to say which story in the franchise comes first, which comes last, and so on, and that's an element that will continue to be used in part four.

    "We continue to do that," says Koules before adding with a laugh that, "Nothing was intentional from the get-go. We took a million dollars down to a warehouse that they shoot porn and bad music videos in. But once it started rolling, yes, James and Leigh were really, really involved [in that]."

    As for where Saw IV will fit into the overall series, Bousman says that while the third film was more emotional as opposed to surprising when compared to the first two, he sees the latest entry as being a combination of all three pictures that have come before.

    "It is definitely more I and II," says the helmer. "There is definitely emotion in it, but I've killed off everybody and I've had to bring in new characters now. In III, you were with people you had seen before; there was a vested interest. You knew Shawnee [Smith] and you knew Tobin. And it is starting again. And you are not going to have that emotional impact because Shawnee and Tobin are going through this, but there definitely is much more character stuff than there ever was in II."

    Check back at IGN soon for more on Saw IV.

    Van http://movies.ign.com/articles/798/798800p2.html
    Laatst aangepast door Wanda L. : 24-06-2007 om 18:30

  4. #29

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    Heb de vetgedrukte stukken gelezen en ik ben nu echt wel zéér benieuwd!!!

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  5. #30

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    Lionsgate heeft de officiële plot voor de vierde Saw-film de wereld ingeslingerd. De film moet in januari 2008 verschijnen.

    "Jigsaw and his apprentice Amanda are dead.

    Now, upon the news of Detective Kerry's murder, two seasoned FBI profilers, Agent Strahm and Agent Perez, arrive in the terrified community to assist the veteran Detective Hoffman in sifting through Jigsaw's latest grizzly remains and piecing together the puzzle.

    However, when SWAT Commander Rigg is abducted and thrust into a game, the last officer untouched by Jigsaw has but ninety minutes to overcome a series of demented traps and save an old friend or face the deadly consequences."



  6. #31

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    Ik kan er niet aandoen, maar elk jaar weer kijk ik uit naar de nieuwe SAW-film. :smile:
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  7. #32

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    Ik zie op IMDB dat die Jigsaw killer èn Amanda weer meedoen.. Maar ze leven toch beiden niet meer?

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door MiiCk0s Bekijk bericht
    Ik zie op IMDB dat die Jigsaw killer èn Amanda weer meedoen.. Maar ze leven toch beiden niet meer?
    Flashbacks misschien ?

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  10. #35

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    Teaser trailer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37t1-LomqVo

    Echt waar hoor. Het begint wel met beelden van de 3 vorige, maar het eindigt met een hele snelle montage van beeldmateriaal van Saw IV!!!

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  11. #36

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    Zoooo das een mooie fake, misschien 1 of 2 foto's uit deel IV maar de rest komt toch echt uit de vorige 3 films...

  12. #37

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door Spider-Steve Bekijk bericht
    Teaser trailer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37t1-LomqVo

    Echt waar hoor. Het begint wel met beelden van de 3 vorige, maar het eindigt met een hele snelle montage van beeldmateriaal van Saw IV!!!

    Steve
    Beeldmateriaal van Saw IV? Ik zag de hele tijd alleen maar beelden van de vorige 3 Saw-films...

  13. #38

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    Ik blijf zeer benieuwd naar de nieuwe Saw-trilogy voor de komende 3 jaar, zeker als ik de synopsis van nr. 4 een paar replies eerder lees.

  14. #39

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door MiiCk0s Bekijk bericht
    Beeldmateriaal van Saw IV? Ik zag de hele tijd alleen maar beelden van de vorige 3 Saw-films...
    Idd, die montage geeft ook niets nieuws. Sowieso te amateuristisch om officieel te zijn, maar wel leuk gedaan...
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  15. #40

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    Nieuwe poster.
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  16. #41

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    In een andere poster zag je een rontgenfoto van een schedel met een sleutel. Is het dan niet logisch dat er in de schedel van Jigsaw die sleutel zit. En dat hij daardoor OOK enorme hoofdpijn had. Mischien is dat de clue in deel 4.

  17. #42

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    Sweet poster 8)
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  18. #43

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door superman Bekijk bericht
    In een andere poster zag je een rontgenfoto van een schedel met een sleutel. Is het dan niet logisch dat er in de schedel van Jigsaw die sleutel zit. En dat hij daardoor OOK enorme hoofdpijn had. Mischien is dat de clue in deel 4.
    Leuk en goed bedacht, maar ik denk niet dat het zo is.. Jigsaw had hoofdpijn omdat hij een hersentumor heeft, en daar draait het juist om in de Saw-reeks.

  19. #44

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    Deze topic gaat wel over Saw IV, maar vond het een beetje overbodig om hier nu een nieuw topic voor te openen...op www.bloody-disgusting.com staat reeds wie Saw V en Saw VI gaat regisseren (zie http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/9373).

    Blijkbaar is de Saw-franchise nog lang niet afgelopen!

    Ontopic: de poster met Jigsaw's hoofd in die weegschaal ziet er wel vet uit...ik was vooraf een beetje sceptisch over deel 4 omdat ik van mening was dat het een beetje op uitmelkerij begint te lijken...maar hetgeen ik hier lees over het verhaal van deel 4 heeft m'n interresse toch een beetje gewekt.
    Laatst aangepast door Peter Neefs : 30-07-2007 om 18:52

  20. #45

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    Wanneer kunnen we deze in de nederlandse bioscopen verwachten ?
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  21. #46

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door misterfun Bekijk bericht
    Wanneer kunnen we deze in de nederlandse bioscopen verwachten ?
    3 Januari 2008

  22. #47

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    De Saw reeks heeft een hele goeie sfeer. Alleen sinds deel 3 is dat weer gedaald, hopelijk kan deel 4 dit terug brengen.

    Hope is lost. Faith is broken. A fire will rise..


  23. #48

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    Citaat Oorspronkelijk gepost door Robintjuh Bekijk bericht
    De Saw reeks heeft een hele goeie sfeer. Alleen sinds deel 3 is dat weer gedaald, hopelijk kan deel 4 dit terug brengen.
    Inderdaad...deel 1 was subliem door de claustrofobische sfeer die het had (doordat een groot gedeelte van de film zich afspeelde in de badkamer waar ze waren vastgeketend) en het einde natuurlijk, deel 2 vond ik nog steeds heel erg goed, maar deel 3 vond ik ook een klein beetje over the top...hopelijk is deel 4 terug zo goed als 1 en 2!

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    Wat een tegenvaller dat filmpje! Leek een beetje heel erg toevallig op deel 1 maar dan veel slechter...

    Hope is lost. Faith is broken. A fire will rise..


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